BDS meeting

Europe/Zurich
Description
We will meet Tuesday, 1:00pm PDT, in Fuji (UNUSUAL TIME).
Agenda is shown below.
Connection info: NOT THIS: Call: 510-665-5437, Meeting ID: 0144
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    • 13:00 13:20
      Shock waves in water, UK results 20m
      slides
    • 13:20 13:30
      Prior work 10m
      slides
    • 13:30 13:50
      Shock waves in water, discussion (E.Doyle, L.Keller, D.Walz, et al) 20m
      Speaker: Lewis Keller (SLAC)
      Slides
      DRAFT: We had discussion of the recent UK results on the shock wave phenomena in the beam dump. Here is a brief summary of our conclusions. Analyzing the increase of pressure of ~120bar, in a volume where the beam is deposited, we need to take into account: -- the beam is deliberately off-center in the cylindrical vessel, so the focusing of reflected waves back to the beam location is not possible; -- asymmetry of elasticity of the vessel, due to details of its construction or support, in reality is important, and helps to disperse the waves; -- waves are generated primarily in radial direction, due to small radius of shower and sharp gradient of temperature, however in the longitudinal direction the shower profile is very smooth (adiabatic in space), and generation of longitudinal waves is suppressed, so that the intensity of direct waves reaching the window would be much less; -- when the waves reach the walls, the pressure is reduced as 1/r and would be attenuated by a factor of several hundreds, with remaining spike of the order of a bar; -- in terms of Joules/g, which is one of the relevant criteria, the ILC dump is more difficult than the SLC dump only by a factor of four (taking beam rastering into account); (See Lew's slide on the web site) -- the internal walls of the vessel may be covered with some "ribs" which could be done in a way not to produce impedance to the flow, but would help to scatter the waves. So, it shows from the first principles that the shock waves should not be a problem.
    • 13:50 14:10
      Highlights from SiD workshop (if time remains) 20m
      Speaker: Dr Thomas Markiewicz (SLAC)
    • 14:10 14:20
      Updated MAC BDS talk (if time remains) 10m
      Speaker: Dr Andrei Seryi (SLAC)